Cheers PF, great playing by Steve, lovely phrasing and dynamics too.
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Cheers PF, great playing by Steve, lovely phrasing and dynamics too.
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Sweet, of course.
Re: that 4th clip...Weckl [& Horacio] can murder this type of stuff in his own way all day long AW... [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Toying w you guys... [img]wink.gif[/img]
Great playing by Hass.
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ March 11, 2005 03:15 PM: Message edited by: fuseU1 ]</font>
Sounds great- much better than the clips off of his CD, I think. I'm a believer now...
I can see that Keith Carlock has had an influence on him(me too for that matter)...
wow. thanks for the humbling. i love his positive energy and musicality. you can also tell from his photos that he's a cool person to work with. his playing is great as well! seriously kicks hass! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
I see a lot of Carlock, but I also see him doing rudiments split b/wn SD and his ride, I'm a big fan of that application, and it's cool to see him doing swiss triplets and mills like that.
It sounds BITCHEN.
I thought he was just well-packaged...but the guys got something...I admit it...
It's so funny how the media plays huge part in what we think we know. I've been checking out Hass since his Berklee days. He was playing this way, a long time before Carlock hit the scene.
I also remember seeing Carlock at every Ravi Coltrane at the Jazz Standard for the whole week Ravi was there with Steve on drums. Kieth doesn't play jazz or latin. I think you have it backwards with who's taking from who. Especially since Kieth rarely phrases in odd groupings using different not values.
If anything Steve comes out of Tony, Elvin, Vinnie and Tain.
BTW, those clips are an amazing display of how to play sick shit while not getting in the way. Almost everytime I hear any drummer try to pull off rhythm like that(vince included) the focus moves from the soloist to the drummer. Hass compliments . I love those clips and that band for that matter.
cjbdrm,
I disagree completely. His CD clips are amazingly musical. Maybe it's the fact that they're not as drumistic as the video clips. But how another musician can't recognize the groove, layering of the instrumentation, and production of HASS' solo album is beyond me. It's the best sounding "drummer produced" C.D I've ever heard. Sounds like a drummer DIDN'T produce it if you know what I mean.
I wonder what you think of player like Abe Laboriel Jr., Shawn Pelton, or Jim Keltner who ONLY play grooves similar to what's on HASS' CD. I love the HASS clips that Para posted, but man, gimmie Hass playing" Boom Boom Smack" over that anytime.
Wow, how taste varies...the clips did nothing for me musically, or stylistically. A+ for effort however.
yes it's an sort of an acquired taste style of drumming in a way. If you're unaware of how he's making all these complex rhythms work in a musical setting such as Manhattan Vibes then it's not going hit you. This type of improvisation is not for everyone. For instance on piano if you like Bud Powell, you're not going to get anything Herbie Hancock plays. I think that this sort of drumming does nothing for folks who can't hear the color variation and musicallity that comes with complex rhythms. You also have to like jazz and latin jazz because this particular band is of that style. I myself love players that take a phrase, rip it apart and build on it. In my humble opinion, the flurry of hand and foot insanity at the end of clip #2 is undeniebly monsterous, whether you like it or not. HA! But again, if you don't understand what it takes to play that and how amazing it is to play it accurately and musically over a song form, you'll hear a wall of sound rather than a rainbow of rhythm.